User talk:Anthere
Please participate in the Universal Code of Conduct consultation on Wikimedia Commons![edit]
Dear Anthere
Thank you for your hard work to create the sum of all knowledge that is freely sharable to every single human being across the world. As our diverse community grows, we need a guideline that will help all of our work collectively and constructively where everyone feels safe, welcomed, and part of a team. That is why the Wikimedia movement is working on establishing a global guideline called the Universal Code of Conduct, often referred to as UCoC.
After the months-long policy consultation, we have prepared a policy (available in many languages) that has been ratified by the Board of Trustees. We’re currently in the second phase of the process. During this round of consultation, we want to discuss the implementation of this policy. As a member of the functionary team of Wikimedia Commons, your opinion on enforcement is of great value. We want to hear from you on how this policy can be enforced on the Wikimedia Commons community and what might be needed to do so. There are a few enforcement questions so you can easily outline your answers based on them. Please do not hesitate to bring any more questions/challenges you think are not yet discussed.
The discussion is taking place on Commons:Universal Code of Conduct consultation. You can also share your thoughts by replying to this message (Please ping me so I get notified), posting your message on my talk page. I am aware that some thoughts cannot be expressed publicly, so you can always share your opinion by emailing me as well.
As a valued member of the Commons community, please share your thoughts, ideas, and experiences that relate to UCoC. Let us know what needs to be improved so we can build a more friendly and cooperative space to increase editor engagement and retention of new users.
Wikimedia projects are governed by you. So, it is you who needs to step up to ensure a safe, comfortable, and pleasant working environment.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you! Wikitanvir (WMF) (talk) 10:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Please take a short survey regarding UCoC[edit]
Hello Anthere,
I would like to inform you that we now have a survey in place to take part in the UCoC consultation. It is not a long one and should take less than 10 minutes to complete. You can take the survey even if you have already participated in the on-wiki consultation. It has a different set of questions and allows you to participate anonymously and privately.
As a member of the Commons functionaries, your opinion is especially essential. Please click here to participate in the survey.
You are still welcome to participate in the on-wiki discussions. If you prefer you can have your say by sending me an email. You can also drop me an email if you want to have a one-to-one chat.
Thank you for your participation! Wikitanvir (WMF) 13:53, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Contribution on Wiki Love Women[edit]
Hello Anthere,
I have tried adding tags and descriptions here. The edit count has appeared on contribution but My Contributions was still at zero. I'm thinking if I was able to do it right or if there's a need to register on a separate page. Thank you. :)
Kunokuno (talk) 03:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's all okay now. I guess it just took time for the page to purge. :)
- Hello User:Kunokuno. Yes, it is on the toollab server, and though situation is way better now than it was a year ago (server always veryyyyyyy slow), it still sometimes takes time to reflect things. Glad you joined in !!!! Anthere (talk)
- It's all okay now. I guess it just took time for the page to purge. :)
Wiki Loves Africa[edit]
Dear Anthere
In the past, you contributed to the Wiki Loves Africa competition. You have another opportunity to create and submit beautiful photographs on the theme of "Health and Wellness" that could change how the world understands people and culture in your part of Africa. As with previous years, there are also many exciting national and international prizes.
For rules and information about how to participate, theme, or prizes click on Contribute to the Wiki Loves Africa photo contest or directly add picture from the button !
- Warmest, Anthere, for the Wiki Loves Africa Team
Cher ou chère Anthere,
Au cours des années passées, vous avez participé au concours photographique Wiki Loves Africa. Vous avez à nouveau l'opportunité de proposer de fabuleuses illustrations sur le thème de "la santé et le bien-être", qui pourraient profondément modifier la façon dont le reste du monde voit l’Afrique et comprend ses habitants et ses coutumes. Bonus, comme lors des années précédentes, il y a plusieurs prix à la clé !
Pour plus d'informations, règles de participation, le thème ou les prix, cliquez sur Participer au concours Wiki Loves Africa ou téléversez des photos en cliquant sur le bouton !
- Bien à vous, Anthere, pour l'équipe Wiki Loves Africa
isa.toolforge.org[edit]
Hello, can you share the list of campaigns in isa.toolforge.org with prices to the winners Magotech (talk) 20:13, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello. The campaigns we (Isla and I) run are listed here : Commons:ISA Tool/Challenges and Commons:ISA Tool/Wiki Loves Africa MetaData Weeks. Other campaigns are run by others and are fully independant. We currently have mostly one campaign open ISA Challenge - Tell Us About Her: Women At Work - as part of the WikiGap campaign - March 2021, and I just realized we forgot to indicate prizes :))) This will be updated today. Thanks ! Anthere (talk)
noted with thanks.
Magotech (talk) 14:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
the challenge ISA challenge - Tell us about her: Woman at work is really nice and the competition is high 😂😂 maybe you should consider the 4 winners if possible 😂😂😂😂 Magotech (talk) 14:43, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- User:Magotech I see Isla has not yet upated the info :((( Eh, yes, the competition is high. Now we need to consider the case of winners super carefully indeeeeeeed ! What would be coolest... a better price for the number 1... or 4 smaller for 4 winners ? ;) Anthere (talk)
I think 4 smaller for 4 winners it will be a motivation 😂 Magotech (talk) 23:09, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Anthere Please could you share and make the end date and prizes for the current ISA campaign public, that could help participant and make the whole thing Dnshitobu (talk) 22:58, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hello user:Dnshitobu. I made the calculations. It is here Commons:ISA Tool/Challenges. But it has not been yet publicly announced nor users informed because I am sick and could not find the energy to do it the last couple of days... sorry about that. Anthere (talk) 12:17, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Anthere Oh sorry, I wish you speedy recovery. Dnshitobu (talk) 22:38, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hello user:Dnshitobu. I made the calculations. It is here Commons:ISA Tool/Challenges. But it has not been yet publicly announced nor users informed because I am sick and could not find the energy to do it the last couple of days... sorry about that. Anthere (talk) 12:17, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Africa[edit]
The Wiki Loves Africa 2021 photographic contest is officially closed. Thank you all for your participation !
This year, the photographic competition has resulted in an amazing 8,319 image uploads to Commons around the theme Health and Wellness.
International winners have been announced !!! Check it out on c:Commons:Wiki Loves Africa 2021/Winners. Congratulations to winners and all those who participated and organized events.
Please follow us on Facebook to know more and stay informed next year.
Warmest,
Anthere for the Wiki Loves Africa Team
Le concours Wiki Loves Africa 2021 est officiellement fermé. Merci d'avoir participé !
Cette année, le concours photo Wiki Loves Africa 2021 a permis l'ajout de 8319 photos à Wikimedia Commons sur le thème Santé et Bien-être, une participation en très forte augmentation par rapport aux années précédentes.
Les gagnants ont été annoncés !!! Voir tous les résultats sur c:Commons:Wiki Loves Africa 2021/Winners. Félicitations aux gagnants mais aussi à tous les participants ainsi qu'aux organisateurs d'évènements.
Suivez nos actualités sur Facebook pour en savoir plus et être informés du prochain concours.
Anthere pour l'équipe Wiki Loves Africa.
لقد تم رسميا إختتام مسابقة التصوير الفوتوغرافي ويكي تهوى إفريقيا 2021. شكرا لكم على مشاركتكم !
في هذا العام ، أسفرت مسابقة التصوير الفوتوغرافي عن تحميلات مذهلة للصور إلى كومنز بلغ عددها 8319 حول موضوع الصحة و العافية.
تم الإعلان عن الفائزين الدوليين !!! شاهد ذلك على كومنز: ويكي تهوى إفريقيا 2021 / الفائزين. تهانينا للفائزين و لجميع من شاركوا في الفعاليات و أسهموا في تنظيمها. يرجى متابعتنا على فيسبوك لمعرفة المزيد من الأخبار و للبقاء على اطلاع للسنة المقبلة.
تحياتنا،
أنتير من فريق ويكي تهوى إفريقيا
Plus que quelques jours pour participer à Wiki Loves Monuments France ![edit]
Bonjour,
Le concours Wiki Loves Monuments France est ouvert pour une semaine encore, jusqu'au 30 septembre. Déjà plus de 6 000 photos ont été importées cette année alors vous aussi rejoignez le concours ! Cette campagne de contribution concerne tous les monuments et objets mobiliers présents dans la base Mérimée et dans la base Palissy. De l'imposant château aux ruines industrielles, de la verrière décorative au reliquaire, c'est un impressionnant patrimoine qui attend d'être photographié et documenté. Vous pouvez dès à présent mettre en ligne autant de photos que vous le souhaitez de ces monuments et objets du patrimoine français. Nous attendons vos photos avec impatience !
Les plus belles photos seront sélectionnées par un jury national composé d'amateurs et de professionnels, de contributeurs à Wikimedia Commons et d'acteurs du patrimoine. Un jury international constituera ensuite une sélection des meilleures photographies mondiales.
Si vous avez des questions, l'équipe organisatrice se fera un plaisir d'y répondre.
P.S. : vous recevez ce message parce que vous avez participé au concours Wiki Loves Monuments en France
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How we will see unregistered users[edit]
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- noted Anthere (talk) 22:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you Anthere![edit]
Greetings Anthere, My friend referred me to you for a quick question. I love your contributions to wikimedia commons and would love your expert advice. How exactly - step by step - did you upload your photos to Wikimedia commons? I want to upload a few photos I took with my own camera, but the upload directions (and codes?) are extremely confusing. Thanks so much for your time and assistance in advance! Cheers, McGuire at Snyderlab (talk) 07:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)McGuire at Snyderlabs
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Slzbg (talk) 16:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Women in architecture[edit]
Hello, Anthere.
Can you tell us whether there will soon be an official declaration of the competition results for the "Tell Us About Her: Women in architecture" campaign?
Also, is it possible to continue using the ISA tool to label architect photos without messing with the competition edit counts? --Bobulous (talk) 18:53, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Bobulous
- Yes, I can tell you :) User:Afek91 just added the results here : Commons:ISA_Tool/Challenges. You are second !!! Afek will promote the results and contact winners in the next few days.
- This campaign had a closed date, so you can not edit it anymore. Sorry about that. This being said... if you are keen, I can set up a new campaign with sightly different categories (or more categories). This campaign was running only on one category category:Female architects by country. Is it what you want to continue working on precisely, or would you be interested into another topic ? Anthere (talk) 18:25, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, @Anthere.
- Thanks for the update. And as far as new campaigns go, any category with interesting photos needing attention will be fine by me. Bobulous (talk) 20:02, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- My suggestion is a campaign to improve description of Featured Images on Commons :) I created it some time ago, but have not yet started to promote it. I see direct interest in working on this category... What do you think ? https://isa.toolforge.org/campaigns/191 Anthere (talk) 22:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- That sounds fun. (Though I thought that Featured Image promotion required the reviewers to check that the image was already categorised, captioned, and described sufficiently?)
- I'm going to finish writing some code for an open source Rust project, then I'll spend some time seeing what can usefully be done with the Featured Image collection. Bobulous (talk) 18:26, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- I thought so too... but after I created the campaign with this category just to have an idea, I realized many images had no depicts at all. And many have only a caption in one language. I think it may be due to images tagged featured images BEFORE the structured data system was set up. But in any cases... it looks like there could be much improvement. Odd. Anthere (talk) 22:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- My suggestion is a campaign to improve description of Featured Images on Commons :) I created it some time ago, but have not yet started to promote it. I see direct interest in working on this category... What do you think ? https://isa.toolforge.org/campaigns/191 Anthere (talk) 22:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Template for East Turkestan Exil-Gov.[edit]
Hello, I did uploaded the File:Qurtulush Yolida.webm and is the Anthem of East Turkestan Exil-Government. Can you help to make a template for the copyright status of the symbols of East Turkestan Exil-Government? TayfunEt. (talk) 08:37, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
IDA campaign 191 tricking users[edit]
Hi, I see you're the owner of this campaign. It tricked a user into doing these incorrect edits. You should probably exclude the files that have digital representation of (P6243) because the data lives on Wikidata and anything added here is redundant. Multichill (talk) 18:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Multichill. Thanks for the report. I am trying to figure out exactly how the tool tricked the user and what is wrong in what happened. Can you explain further ?
- The problem I see is that I can not exclude files from the ISA campaign. The ISA campaign is fed through the selection of one or several categories on Commons. In this specific case, it feeds on only one category category:Featured pictures on Wikimedia Commons and it will take all pictures that are in that category, with a depth of 4. I can not exclude images from it... In the future, we could make it so that campaigns are set up based on queries (which would allow to exclude specific images probably), but not the case at the moment. So... I am trying to figure out what the implication of the edits of Bobulous are, what is wrong in them, whether it is a one-shot issue or will be a major problem with the entire campaign, and whether it is easily fixed by bot afterwards or need manual fixing. If you could explain better, I could find a solution to prevent problems ? Thanks Anthere (talk) 08:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- I know what happened, not how it happened and the user doesn't know anymore.
- Weird that you can't filter and weird that you use depth 4 because it's a flat category, all featured pictures are directly in it.
- Queries can complicated, search is easier in this case. 329 out of 15,606 is about 2% so risk of impact is low. It's sorted by last edit so if you keep an eye on it, you should be good. Multichill (talk) 09:53, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- I still do not see how the tool « tricked » the user though. The tool does not make any suggestion. The addition of depicts is entirely in the user hands. So if a user decides to replace one depict by another depict, he is fully responsible. And of course, anyone can make mistake.
- I do not think it is « weird » that I can not filter out... this is the way the tool works ! But any suggestion of tool improvement is good to collect. I noted the search link above. I will digg into that... and keep an eye on it. We will only push this campaign in May, so will need to make sure that things are ok.
- You are actually correct that the featured images category is only 1 depth. Well, this is an issue. It takes depth 4, but then collect 0 images from depth levels that do not exist... so zero impact. Anthere (talk) 08:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Salut Florence, J'ai ajoute cette vidéo pour le media du jour le mois prochain. Si tu en as d'autres comme celle là, on est preneur ! Cordialement, Yann (talk) 18:56, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- WOW. C’est Jeanne qui va être fière ! Malheureusement, je crois que c’est la seule vidéo du WikiChallenge cette année. Cette vidéo illustre cet article : https://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Babenda. Anthere (talk) 21:57, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
The joke images and other inappropriate images[edit]
I uploaded them when i newly started contributing to Wikipedia unbeknownst that they were inappropriate. Thanks for letting me know. Is there anything I can do more to improve and help out? Juliegwen (talk) 10:07, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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Sound Logo[edit]
Hello,
I am messaging you because a contest for a sound logo for Wikimedia is being developed and your opinion as a Wikimedia Commons admin is appreciated. My team would like to know if it is possible for the top finalist sound logos in the contest to have attribution temporarily hidden from public view until all the votes are final? The idea is to let the public judge the sound logo contestants based on the merit of the logo, not the person or people who made it. Again, any feedback is appreciated.
Thank you,
VGrigas (WMF) (talk) 17:26, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you goats! :))[edit]
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Saw your appreciation message for my image 'Home Away from Home' ... Thank you and have a wonderful week! Ewien
Btwien (talk) 10:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- ahaha :) Anthere (talk) 13:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Please test new feature on the ISA Tool (computer-aided tagging)[edit]
Hello
We have just released a new version of the ISA tool on the Test Server. The new version propose semi-automatic tagging of images, which seeks to assist community in identifying and labelling depicts statements for Commons files.
We are currently looking for feedback with regards to the look, feel, and usability of the tool with the machine vision / metadata-to-concept enhancements in place. In a second stage, we will be testing the quality of the recommandations provided.
We deeply appreciate your feedback, since it will help us determine the next steps of the project.
Please sign-up to indicate interest, test the tool, and simply provide feedback in the talk page.
More information on the new feature and test campaign: Commons:ISA Tool/Image to Concept
Thank you in advanceǃ
ISA Tool Workshop - Dec 12th 2022[edit]
Greetings.
We released a few weeks ago a new version of the ISA tool on the Test Server. The new version propose semi-automatic tagging of images, which seeks to assist community in identifying and labelling depicts statements for Commons files.
Now we are looking for feedback with regards to
- the look, feel, and usability of the tool with the machine vision / metadata-to-concept enhancements in place.
- and most importantly, the quality of the recommandations provided.
This is why we are organizing an online workshop on Monday 12th of December, 16h-17h30 UTC+1 (on zoom). We will be very happy if you find the time to join us.
More information and sign-up : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:ISA_Tool/Image_to_Concept#ISA_Workshop_-_Dec_12th
Thank you in advanceǃ
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- Thank you computer program. Anthere (talk) 01:32, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2022 voting is open![edit]
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Round 2 of Picture of the Year 2022 voting is open![edit]
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Notification about possible deletion[edit]
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Request for feedback on the Translation Notifications extension[edit]
Hello,
I’m Abijeet Patro. I’m a software developer in the Language team at the Foundation. I work on the Translation Notifications extension. I’m reaching out to you because you’ve previously used the extension, and we’re looking to gather feedback on how the extension can be made more reliable.
You can leave your feedback on a thread that we’ve started on the Babylon talk page.
Thanks for your time.
Regards,
Abijeet Patro (he/him)
Staff Software Engineer, Language Engineering
Wikimedia Foundation
APatro (WMF) (talk) 08:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Copyright status of WIPO Copyright Treaty[edit]
Hi Anthere,
I think you are or were recently a Wikimedian in Residence at WIPO? Over on English Wikisource there has come up a copyright discussion relating to the WIPO Copyright Treaty. Wikisource reproduces original texts, so we're trying to figure out the copyright owner and any relevant license for the text of the treaty itself (in particular, for WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) (1996), WIPO Publication No. 226E, ISBN 978-92-805-0706-5, a scan of which is available online at https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_226.pdf). We would like to upload a copy of this PDF to Commons (or locally on enWS if needed), and then use the Proofread Page extension to transcribe it on enWS.
Do you have any contacts that you could ask what the WIPO's position is on 1) who owns the copyright for the text of the treaty itself, and, if they view the owner to be the WIPO itself, 2) what, if any, license they apply to it in view of their subsequently adopted Open access policy?
Going by my own amateur research, as a negotiated international treaty the most reasonable author for copyright purposes would be the WIPO itself. And since the WIPO is not a competent legislative assembly and the treaty is not self-executing—it was not adopted into US law, but implemented by compatible regulations included in the DMCA—the text of the treaty itself is not an edict of government (i.e. {{PD-EdictGov}}). As such it would appear the text of the treaty is protected by copyright owned by the WIPO, and the only way we can host it is through explicit licensing using a license compatible with our policy (i.e. CC BY 4.0). Xover (talk) 10:12, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello User:Xover. Well noted. I shall inquire... Unlikely to be concerned by the adoption of CC BY in 2017. Unlikely to be an edict of government either. I’ll be back on the topic. Anthere (talk) 18:22, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Any luck getting something from the WIPO? Xover (talk) 10:43, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Xover. Nope. Not yet. But I am not forgetting the case. I was able to talk only once to my contact and I had a list of 7 elements for her to look at... Only 2 done so far :( The problem is that... she did not know and was not sure. So she needs to find someone who would be « sure ».
- But... We are now three of us (one Spanish speaking, one French, one Arabic), and we have our first team meeting of the year tomorrow. I have put the point on the list of stuff to discuss. Anthere (talk) 18:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Any news? Xover (talk) 16:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Any luck getting something from the WIPO? Xover (talk) 10:43, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello User:Xover. Well noted. I shall inquire... Unlikely to be concerned by the adoption of CC BY in 2017. Unlikely to be an edict of government either. I’ll be back on the topic. Anthere (talk) 18:22, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Xover. After some back and forth and submitting my question to various people, here is the closest to an answer I got, from a person of the WIPO Lex department. I copy it verbatim :
- I submitted your request to the Office of the Legal Counsel.
- The text of a treaty is not in principle copyright-protected as such, but WIPO’s publications are. In accordance with WIPO’s open access policy, WIPO’s online content and publications, such as the publication referred to in our email exchange below, are made available by WIPO under the Terms of Use of its website, pursuant to which, except as otherwise provided, the Creative Commons (CC) CC BY 4.0 license applies.
- As indicated in the Terms of Use, the CC BY 4.0 license allows anyone to reproduce, distribute, adapt, translate and publicly perform content published online under WIPO’s name, without explicit permission, provided that such use is accompanied by an acknowledgement that WIPO is the source, and clearly indicates if changes are made to the original content.
- I hope this helps.
End of the answer
I (Anthere) will add that the example I submitted to her was this one For example... WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) (1996), WIPO Publication No. 226E, ISBN 978-92-805-0706-5, a scan of which is available online at https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_226.pdf
So it looks like they consider those treaties to be under CC BY SA 4.0
I hope the General Counsel will actually provide further input though. Because this answer is of special interest to me. I considered that old publications (non-treaties), published before the adoption of open access policy, and accessible on WIPO website, had still to be considered protected under traditional copyright terms. But her answer might suggest that we can consider old publications to be relicensed under CC BY SA when published on the current website, UNLESS they specifically mention the traditional copyright. Anthere (talk) 15:44, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you!My immediate impression of that answer is also that they consider the Open Access Policy retroactive. That's not what the Open Access Policy actually says, though: new WIPO online publications … are issued under … CC BY 4.0. (my emphasis). Reading the Terms of Use I would take that to mean that only content produced or first published after the adoption of the Open Access Policy would be covered by it. It would be very good to either get that confirmed, or get the Terms of Use updated to clarify that all content is covered by the policy (including its exceptions for third-party content, the WIPO logo, etc.).But this is in any case sufficient for us to keep the WCT at both enWS and Commons, so my immediate problem is solved. Thank you again for following up on this! I would also appreciate updates if you get more since I am also interested in the general case (but I'll stop nagging you :)).PS. If you should happen to get the legal theory behind the claim "The text of a treaty is not in principle copyright-protected as such" I'd be most interested to hear it. So far as I am aware only the edicts of government doctrine could actually make treaties exempt from copyright, and treaties that are neither self-executing nor authored by a competent legislative body do not obviously fall within the scope of edicts. As a NGO, neither would works authored by WIPO be covered by any relevant government works exceptions like those embodied in {{PD-USGov}}. I am going to keep operating on the assumption that the quoted phrasing was imprecise in this regard, but if there should be an actual legal theory behind that it would have wide and general applicability for Wikisource. Xover (talk) 16:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Agreed. This is why I will push to have further input from the General Counsel, specifically on treaties. This being said... I doubt very much they will make the terms of use more precise when it comes to retroactivity simply because the site host a lot of old content and they are not going to go back to double check the exact licence of each of them. They are careful with every report moving forward... and tagging each of them one by one, but they will probably not take the chance for old report.
When I joined, they had adopted the open licensing a few years back, and told me « every content produced post-adoption » was CC BY unless unless otherwise mentioned. But at some point in the first year, I discovered that whilst individual publications were clearly tagged... the website was still under copyright according to its terms of use. I asked why and the answer was... that at the time of the decision to switch, they knew some of the old reports on the site had been done with partners who were still operating under copyright. They did not want to take the risk of relicensing a document without the agreement of all parties involved (and did not think it was worth the effort to negotiate with them as most reports go moot after a few years). 5 years later, when I pointed out to the situation of the website still being under copyright, they considered the system was well enough established now that they could consider it reasonably safe to put the whole website by default on CC BY, most of the old copyrighted reports being usually tagged as copyright. But officially making it retroactive on the WHOLE website would mean relicensing some untagged content where they are not the only copyright holders. Doubt they would do that. Risk is limited but still... not good practice/
But clearly, they never considered the treaties to be in such situation. So yeah, you are good to go.
But I agree "The text of a treaty is not in principle copyright-protected as such » is a good topic to explore at leisure... Anthere (talk) 06:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Commons:Tools[edit]
Hi Anthere, today you priorized translation of Commons:Tools to French only. I think this is a bit short/tight because the Tools are for all Commons users in every language important. Raymond (talk) 19:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi User:Raymond. Yeah... sorry... we are in the middle of a hackathon to work on the event tool and I used that page as a demo in fact... of course all languages should in fact be a priority... Sorry for the disruption. Anthere (talk) 12:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)